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Saturn in Sagittarius.

Discussion in 'Observing Celestial Objects' started by kevan hubbard, Aug 18, 2018.

Saturn in Sagittarius.

Started by kevan hubbard on Aug 18, 2018 at 4:21 PM

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  1. kevan hubbard

    kevan hubbard Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone noticed the amazing view over the last few nights of Saturn floating in between m8 and m24?Sagittarius is pretty low for me but still I've had some great views over the last few evenings. Sagittarius will soon be gone as I noticed that the Pleiades, m45, where creeping over the horizon by 23hr two nights back. I find even from my high latitude, although it does vary as I travel a lot!,m8 and m24 are just naked eye.I think m22 would be too if it reached a higher declination, it can't be much off 47 tucanae and is certainly much brighter than m13(m13 can just be detected naked eye in dark places on clear nights and indeed I did so about 5 nights ago).I wonder about m4,5,2,3 ,15 among the messier globular clusters if the naked eye can pull them in....just?m10 and 12 I fear are that bit too dim along with m92.
     
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    I found Saturn, in the trees, while on my way to the Red One the other night. I had my new B+W FL-D 46mm Filter in the snout of one of my 2" William Optics 90° Dielectric Diagonals. And there it was - The Lord of the Rings!*The FL-D isn't touted for use on Saturn, and I'd love to hear other people's accounts' of how Saturn looks through any of their Mars-Filters on this amazing object.

    I found the B+W FL-D darkened the disk and rings' to a rich, deep chestnut-brown-ish colour. And this disingenuously increased the contrast - even in my ST80 the Cassini Division was a gorgous sight! The usually subtle equatorial-belts in Saturns' upper atmosphere jumped-out at me. All of this was wholly unexpected! I did a literal double-take and fined-tuned my Crayford-focuser: I concluded I really saw this!

    The B+W FL-D Filter is the least amount of a magenta-colour in my armada of Mars-Filters. So as long as you're in the neighborhood..... Have at! :p

    Enjoy!
     
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    The ringed world was in a beautiful context between the nebula m8 and the pseudo open cluster m24(actually part of the milky way seen through a gap in the dust making it unique in messiers catalogue).
     
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    Thank you, Kevan! That's interesting indeed! A slice of a dark nebuale occluding the view. I can see how this would have confused ol' Charles Messier on his list of 'non-comets.'

    Thanks for the history lesson!

    Dave
     
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    He misidentified m74(might be 73?)which is a pairing of 3 stars in Aquarius as an open cluster.this is,I believe, just a chance alignment of 3 stars.I think m101 too might not have been where he said it was so what we now call m101 was the nearest candidate? M24 is huge and naked eye guessing about 3.5 magnitude but because m24 is spread out more compact m8 is easier to see naked eye.I can see it at it's highest point from my nearest best dark skies site.those two m6/7 by the scorpions sting elude me.they bright but I think are only a tiny bit above my horizon. The main star of the string ,shaula,never clears the horizon.
     
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    Oh yes - in the above post about my view of Saturn with the B+W FL-D Filter, I put a '*' on 'The Lord of the Rings.' The '*' was to indicate the attribution to Avani Soares . It was our resident Maestro of Astro-Photography who so dubbed the planet Saturn as 'The Lord of the Rings.'

    It was perfect! :D
     
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    Mars could be 'the red peril'or the 'red under the bed'!
     
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    Then we have this 'oldie but a goldie' -



    4004.jpg
     
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    I saw no Bolsheviks as I departed château Hubbard enroute out this morning as I visited the meditation chamber!I believe Bolshevik means 'the majority',the meschaviks 'the minority'.this referred to the parliament in Petrograd set up by Kerensky. Kerensky was neither,some kind of moderate socialist. Of course under Lenin the Bolsheviks came out tops and the rest,as they say,is history.
     
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    A good knowledge of history AND political-science!

    Cool! :cool:
     
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    But sadly never been to Moscow. Kaliningrad is the only city in Russia I've ever visited. Bus in from kalepida, Lithuania, along the very beautiful kalepida split a sliver of land covered in pine forests and also a national park. Exited the Russian exclave by train Kaliningrad to Berlin. Emanuel Kant was born in kalingrad,then called Konigsberg. He's buried in the cathedral there.is his time it was protestant and German but has now been converted to the orthodox faith.
     
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    I wanted to continue Eastward when I was all over Poland, but I was vetoed by my father. Of course I was only 10 (it was 1970) at the time. And he hated the Russians. So I couldn't do anything about it. Except drive him crazy in the process. I did so wish to have seen Leningrad (at the time, before it was St. Petersburg again), and explore the architecture around there.
     
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    I wouldn't feel put out as they wouldn't have let you in to the USSR anyhow without a visa! Leningrad has an observatory. I'd imagine it's good for the northern lights,out of the city,up there at 60 degrees north?to the south I reckon Antares and formalhault don't get over their horizon?
     
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    For aurorae, it would have been pretty good, but I'd have prefered Norway!

    We found out (from the consulate for the USA in Warsaw) the "Bonus-System" worked very nicely in getting through <Koff!> "Red-Tape." Just put a US $10-bill in a piece of folded-paper and hand it to the Soviet Consulate!

    You'd be in Russia in no time at all! :p
     
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    For aurora watching there's a ferry that sails year round from Bergen, Norway(about 60 degrees north)to Hammerfest, way north of the artic circle. I think it takes about 8 days.due to the Gulfstream the ferry can sail even in winter as the sea is too warm to freeze even up the top. They do special aurora prices for winter to encouraged out of season passengers. I've never been as far north as Hammerfest, furthest I got was Narvik using a combination of trains,buses and ferries from Oslo, then a sleeper train to Stockholm using the worlds most northern electric railway(Narvik is 200km north of the artic circle). I was there in an April so no northern lights as it hardly got dark.
     

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